Alex Honnold

You're type A12 or whatever.

Just the little pieces at the bottom.

Actually, this is why when you ask about any big goals, sometimes I think the big goals are slightly limiting because if you're your friend who's laying in bed,

Type of one to one is not the appropriate goal.

You know what I mean?

Like you need, you need to type a four, like you need to just get out and like do a little thing.

You need to achieve some success.

You need to see that you can do something and you need to take on appropriately sized challenges because I think having a great white whale, you know, is, is great sometimes, but that's not always what you need, you know?

And, and partially like for me right now, you know, we're raising two little kids and we're just like in the midst of it, you know, it's like bedtime right now is hanging.

It's just like, it's a lot.

And I'm like, I don't need like an L-cap size goal right now because, you know, we're just trying to make it through a certain phase of life, really.

Not to say that I'll never have other big goals, but you're kind of like, you want your goals to be appropriate to the time and space that you have available.

Yeah.

But I mean, but that's why you focus on it doesn't matter to you.

Like, is it something that you haven't done?

Like, is it good for your growth?

Is it challenging for you?

Like, it's good enough.

Yeah.

But that's the thing.