Alex Honnold

And I think as a result of body work like that, I haven't had any major like overuse injuries in years.

So, like, that's pretty good for me.

Climbing still has that exact same thing going on where you can kind of go either way.

I do think though, that the self-care track will obviously went out long-term.

I mean, that's the thing with the climate and being in the Olympics and just the professionalism, all that.

I mean, obviously self-care is better for you long-term.

It was like, you know, everybody knows that, that said,

you still see a lot of very proficient climbers who, yeah, exactly.

Just kind of party, go hard.

I mean, cause so much of climbing just comes down to effort when you're doing the thing.

Like if you go climbing several days a week and you try your absolute hardest every time you're climbing, you're going to get pretty freaking good.

You know, whether you do red light therapy or like any of the weird other stuff or not.

So it's like, I mean, it really just comes down to your effort doing the thing.

And so, yeah, I mean, you could live and I mean, a lot of climbers, especially in the past lived on a diet of, of, you know, cigarettes and,

No, I think that's definitely a big thing.

I mean, I think I've thought in the past that in some ways I feel kind of lucky that I came up when I did in climbing, where it's like sort of pre-smartphone, pre-social, pre, you know, you just live in your car and you do the thing and that's it.

And that's your whole lifestyle.

I mean, currently, you know, I have all the social media accounts and things, but I don't have any of the apps on my phone.

I have a friend that manages it for me.

I, like, send all the content to her, but she posts stuff.