Alex Honnold

It's not cool.

It's not even hard.

Like, it's not – it's whatever.

But to actually do something that's cutting edge or newsworthy in climbing, it's pretty freaking hard, you know.

And the challenge with social and with public, all that kind of stuff, is that it's just so easy to –

I don't want to say to fake it because it's not like people are out there like trying to be duplicitous or like to trick you.

But it's just you can get the same splash with none of the effort, you know, through social stuff, I think.

You're like, oh, I just did something easy and people thought it was amazing.

Let's call that good.

And you're like, well, that's just not good because it's easy.

It's freaking, you know, like it's not cutting edge.

It's not rad.

Yeah, on the one hand, I set big goals, I guess, you know, something like El Cap.

But the thing is, I would actually say that's more the outgrowth of setting consistent little goals, like, all the time.

Like, I basically always have a running to-do list of, like, what am I doing tomorrow?

What am I doing today?

What am I trying to do this week?

And that extends to climbing as well with, like, what are all the little things I can be doing?

Like, what are the little things I can tick this week?

You know, I have my climbing journal goes back to 2005 or 2006 or something.