Alex Honnold

And so you just like punt to the next year.

And so, yeah, I mean, sometimes the goals don't happen.

Sometimes they do, but you kind of just have to let it play out.

You know, it's more like the day-to-day little challenges.

Cause you're super well practiced.

Well, I'm actually, I feel the same way with public speaking now, but that's after years of practice.

It used to be, it used to be so stressful for me.

Like, so yeah, no, I was, I was so shy.

No, I mean, exactly.

That's why I hate all this stuff.

It's like, oh, you're just wired differently.

So I'm like, no, I know that, you know, like, yeah, public, like speaking in front of a class in school was like mortifying.

But now after years of doing keynote speeches to like giant groups, I'm sort of like, no, no, it's super chill.

But, you know, that's all learned.

With that particular scanning in the fMRI, they show you a bunch of black and white pictures, and it's like whether or not that triggers the fear response.

And I was like, well, obviously looking at pictures isn't going to trigger my fear response.

But I'm like, had they thrown a snake into the fMRI with me, that would have triggered my fear response.

If there were giant spiders crawling over me, that probably would too.

And so I was like, no, obviously I feel fear.

I just, I'm just not afraid of black and white photos.