Alex Horton
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first heard Oct 2025
last heard 3 Dec
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That's right.
I also saw that the CIA was doing some sort of operations there.
Where does that fit in in the sort of tools you laid out?
And also, why do we know about this, considering that at least I thought the CIA did its work in secret?
Traditionally, the CIA likes to be left to his own devices, which is how we get into some of these pickles around the world, right?
President Trump said he had authorized CIA covert actions in Venezuela.
But their bread and butter, you know, what they're good at is getting into, you know, a country like Venezuela that's already relatively unstable, you know, given the authoritarian rule there.
The economy has been in shambles for years.
There are strong opposition groups with Washington ties that are on the ground, that have powerful lobbying groups in Washington.
So the CIA's role in the covert war, anyway, would be to work with those opposition groups, make sure they're armed, make sure they have intelligence.
To give them an edge over Maduro's forces, shall it come to that?
Just so I have this kind of clear, you're saying that President Trump has made a show of kind of authorizing covert operations in Venezuela, but we don't exactly know what they're up to and we don't exactly know what those aims are.
And we don't know if they're doing it.
So he's turned a covert action into overt action, right?
Like, you know, he faces himself as a dealmaker, a negotiator.
So it's possible that, you know, he wants to see Maduro leave power.
And this is one way of coercion that falls short of military action.
OK.
So as you're saying, in the administration's telling, the focus of these operations is to topple a Maduro regime that is allegedly tied to drugs and fentanyl.
But we usually hear these claims in relationship to other countries like Mexico or Colombia, not Venezuela.
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