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Alex Imas

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Right, exactly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Google recently announced Gemini Omni and its video editing capabilities are incredible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

You can upload a video and then tell Omni to do things like change the background or adjust the lighting or add or remove elements, all while keeping everything else consistent.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But Omni isn't just a video editor.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I got a chance to sit down with the research and product team behind Omni and I learned that it's a preview of how future frontier models will be trained.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

It can take in any kind of input, whether that's text or audio or video.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And while it doesn't currently do so, architecturally, it's capable of just as seamlessly outputting images or text.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

So it's really a bet on the multimodal data transfer hypothesis.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

The model becomes better at predicting one data type by seeing the others.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

For example, Omni is really good at accurately rendering text on video, even though Google didn't specifically target that capability in this model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And Omni is the next step towards more accurate world models.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Because in order to predict the next frame of a video, you have to have a deep understanding of physics and spatial dynamics.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

As Omni progresses, it'll be interesting to see whether it can close a sim-to-real gap.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Because it's much harder to collect data in the real world than it is in simulation, robotics progress has lagged other applications of AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But if you have really good video models that can simulate reality, maybe that stops being the case.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

In the meantime, if you want to try Omni, you can check it out in the Gemini app at gemini.google or use it in Google's AI creative studio, Flow, at flow.google.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

We were talking a second ago about why there isn't more automation as a result of LLMs.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And one plausible mechanism could be that, as you were saying with the O-ring, so O-ring theory refers to this fact that the Challenger shuttle blew up because there's one component that malfunctioned and it destroyed the whole thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And maybe that's a more general model of how goods are produced in the economy, that you've got to make sure everything is reliable and works well.