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Alex Imas

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And you can't automate an entire job to an AI right now, even though it might...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

be able to perform it at some probability.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

You need extreme reliability in order for it to not destroy the finished good.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

I think this is, yeah, so this might explain why there's less automation now than there otherwise could be.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But I think it works in the other direction once AIs get advanced enough that integrating humans into the production flow of future goods

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

even beyond the arguments about how humans will be more expensive or dumber or whatever, even beyond that, just there will be whole production flows that are organized for AI labor, where they're talking in neuralese, they're thinking many thousands of times faster.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

So even if there's some comparative advantage where it makes sense to hire a human, there will be like transaction costs and worries about reliability that will actually make it hard to integrate humans into future production flows.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

By the way, the model you're talking about seems extremely plausible to me of why more lawyers or accountants or whatever are not automated.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

Like there are cases or even software engineers where there's a pretty good probability that the thing worked as you expect.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But the thing you're paying the lawyer for is like, no, really, my company is not going to go under because.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

So speaking of which, we've been talking about

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

what preferences humans currently have and what impact that has on what kinds of goods will be scarce in the future.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But of course, we'll have different kinds of entities in the future, AIs, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

There was a time when there were no humans on earth, but evolution selected for agents that have specific drives and preferences because those tend to survive the most.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And those preferences now basically determine how $100 trillion world economy

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

what it produces.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And so why not expect the same thing of AIs in the future?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

This is not even a world with catastrophic misalignment, that is to say they just kill everybody.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

But there will be evolution of, even if not individual AIs, then firms which have AIs as part of them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Alex Imas and Phil Trammell – What remains scarce after AGI?

And what will that evolution favor?