Alex Kantrowitz

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The Compound and Friends · Why Demand for Compute Is About to Explode With Alex Kantrowitz · 31 Jul 2026 podcast

I'm not crazy.

Well, okay, just to break that down, if you have models that are capable of planning and hacking and doing zero-day vulnerabilities, like the one that, if you take the guardrails away, like the one that OpenAI had, maybe it makes sense to go to some people who could really get messed up, like banks, and be like, why don't you give this a spin on your products before

before I release it to everybody.

I don't think you're wrong.

So this was the second part of it.

I don't think that this was planned.

I don't think this was done with the intention to market.

But the phrase, never waste a good crisis, they were probably jumping up and down.

Now, we don't know.

There could be other companies.

It seems like there might be a second company this model hacked.

Maybe it's much further than we even know, and that could lead to trouble.

But this was essentially a victimless crime, right?

Hugging Face seems to be okay with it for now.

And by the way, the other wrinkle was, I don't know if you saw this, Hugging Face tried to use closed frontier models,

which I think means OpenAI or Anthropic,

to figure out what happened.

But because they had guardrails that were forced to be put on them, I think by the government, they were not able to get to the bottom of the problem.

So they had to use a Chinese open source model to figure out what was going on.

Because there's no rules with those.

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