Alex Mayasi

What have been some of the biggest developments in housing in the last five, 10 years, while it's been really the focus of your work?

Which is a common objection about zoning.

It's like, well, you know, a new apartment building was built, but it's very expensive to live there.

And I feel like rents are still going up.

Everything's still so expensive.

Yes, yes.

I wanna finish with a quote actually from the book, which is something you said to me that really stuck with me.

So I'm gonna read the quote here.

You told me, I wish that communities had the mentality that is their responsibility to grow because we know there's going to be future generations that are going to need housing.

I wish that people cared more about future residents.

Could you tell me a bit more what you mean there?

Yeah.

So this is absolutely the focus of a chapter of the book.

I really love that because what could be more understandable that you, you,

choose a neighborhood, you don't want it to change.

But there's a trade-off because of all the people who are new to housing in the future.

And it does seem like there's a way economics is so much about incentives and laws and policies, but this was something really about empathy that you're pointing out as important.