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Alex Pall

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

How do you feel about models training on your content?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

I don't care.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

Yeah, I figured.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

Yeah.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

Because it's like a cat out of the bag.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

We don't care about our music either.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

I ask, is there so much controversy around music and art?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

I'd compare this phase in AI models training off of copyrighted data is the Napster moment, where the record labels couldn't figure out a way to sell music in the digital age.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

If they had been forward thinking and accepted that they would have created Spotify, we wouldn't be paying an extra 30% to a DSP.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

But they didn't.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

And it had this whole moment where it's like, you can't really stop this from happening.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

So just embrace it and figure out how to harness it when it comes out the other side.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

One person will get sued.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

These models are going to train on this and they are going to be able to do these things that everyone's feared about them doing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

But then we're going to be able to make better art or different art.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

Is there anything you do fear?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

Loaded question that I want to answer correctly.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

My first instinct is to say no.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

Because I feel, specifically us, we're DJs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
The Chainsmokers - Music & Markets - [Invest Like the Best, EP.430]

15 years ago, the DJ producer, and still to this day, you've seen the memes about they're just pressing play or all of their music is software.

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