Alex Wagner

Well, you know, I applaud you for the sort of courage to be out there and to take the risks and to write eloquently and very compellingly about stuff that's pretty complicated and disheartening.

Like I said, I just think the piece, well, all of your writing is worth reading.

But the most recent one was incredibly provocative and really made me think.

Oh, thank you.

I'm really appreciative that you could take some time to chat with us all about it.

Thanks for your time.

Of course.

Thank you for having me, Alex.

And I'm Alex Wagner.

Oh, huge.

I mean, listen, I can't make it unless it's a big show.

You know what I'm saying?

Is it a national emergency?

I'm in.

If this is just routine.

Well, we're always in an emergency, so.

I mean, I think we live in the upside down, Dan, when Republicans are trying to like care about pretend that they care about funding the government and the appropriations process when they've literally bent the knee and like done a blood oath to the man who is completely vaulted over the legislative process and wants to do nothing but strip the government down to its studs.

So, yeah, I mean, it feels weird, right?

It's a complete inversion of the party's normal stances.

And that is odd.