Alex Wagner

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I just want to get your thoughts, since I have you here as our legal eagle, on some really high-profile cases that are making their way through the courts.

On Tuesday, SCOTUS weighed in for the first time on trans athletes participating in women's sports.

And for years, most of those decisions have been left to state and local organizations, right?

But the Trump administration is pushing to make the ban a federal issue.

And some sources say that justices appear inclined to uphold it.

I can't imagine.

The Roberts Court?

I know.

What's your feeling on how that's going to shake out?

Wow.

It feels like the federal government has real leverage over states where this is being fought out.

And the education department is also fighting Maine, California, Minnesota over efforts to cut off federal funding because those states allow trans girls to compete on girls' sports teams.

Right.

That's those are the sort of a parallel situation is multi front litigation.

I mean, I feel like the connective tissue between what's happening with that group of people and what's happening with migrants and brown people in the country is just a sort of brutalization and a diminution of their humanity.

And I worry that the impunity with which this administration is going after people they deem not worthy of belonging in this country, that that is going to give them license to, I don't know, legally be as aggressive as they possibly can be and shoot for the moon in terms of

punishing or otherwise dehumanizing people that don't fit within their political agenda.