Alex Wagner

Afrikaners.

Yeah.

Afrikaners, yes.

That's another conversation for another time.

I don't think so.

I actually think this is one where it's like, huh?

I mean, nobody's talking about that.

Democrats have, like, it's, again, this goes back to, like, I think one of the structural advantages Democrats have in this fight is, like, they are seen as a party that gives a shit about the sick and the poor and health care.

Like, it's called Obamacare.

Like, it's a party plank.

And the Democrats are saying unanimously and with one voice, this is about fighting for, you know...

ensuring that costs don't go up on insurance premiums and people have access to health care and i think the canard that this is you know democrats trying to pay for you know trans undocumented migrants like health care is so it's such a convoluted and pathetic and destructive narrative i i just i have more faith in the american people and i just don't think it takes it

It's already baked in.

I think people understand why Democrats are fighting this fight because they've basically been fighting this fight since I was five.

This has been going on for a while.

Well, and I also think, you know, people can be

If it's an issue like immigration that doesn't necessarily touch people at the kitchen table, they can be lied to or the truth can be muddied.

But people give a shit about their health care premiums.

People give a shit about their access to doctors.

And they will find – you know what I mean?