Alex Wagner

Maneuver seems like it opens up a portal that maybe doesn't always exist.

Yeah, I mean, we're going to get to J.D.

Vance's assertion that ICE has absolute immunity.

But I do, you know, like I do wonder when you see these people being abducted and detained and arrested and violently thrown to the ground in establishments like the one I'm talking about, the chokehold video that is part of the ProPublica reporting happens in a restaurant supply store.

A lot of this stuff happens right around or actually inside businesses.

And I wonder from a legal standpoint, whether business owners have more agency in preventing ICE from acting so aggressively or maybe stopping the raid entirely.

I mean, how would that how does what what can happen in that space?

Sure.

Another thing that they can do... And just to stop you for one second, often ICE doesn't have warrants, right?

No, yeah.

They're just randomly picking out places where it feels like there might be undocumented residents hanging out, looking for work, or actually working, right?

So that's not nothing that business owners can say, you can't come in here without a warrant, because that slows the process down at the very least, right?

Well, that's that's meaningful also, because last night there was a report that ICE officers arrested workers at a Mexican restaurant after the ICE officers had just eaten at the Mexican restaurant.

As if kind of like they wanted like, I don't know, tacos and like went in, had the tacos and were like, you know what?

Why don't we grab some migrants here as long as we're done with our barbacoa?

Yes.

Exactly.

No cookies for you.

You know, as we talk about sort of what's happening on the streets, there's also the reality of what's unfolding behind closed doors.

And I think if you have been disturbed by the treatment of both American citizens and non-citizens alike on the streets of Minneapolis or another major American city, there is reporting out this week about what's going on in ICE detention centers.