Alex Wiggins

Yes, so it's pointed towards a north-northeast direction at the time, based on what that video shows in Sapphire. We were fairly far away from the coast of San Diego, San Clemente area. So it definitely was not, you know, lights on the horizon from the city, nor did I have anything as far as helicopters or air traffic that I was detecting at all in that location.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So when I say that I saw this craft come out of the water, it's nighttime. So I want to be clear when I say what I saw, I saw a light and it was a decently bright light. So when you've been on the water as long as I have, You know the difference between an aircraft carrier's lights, a difference between an oiler's lights, a fishing cargo ship.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So when I say that I saw this craft come out of the water, it's nighttime. So I want to be clear when I say what I saw, I saw a light and it was a decently bright light. So when you've been on the water as long as I have, You know the difference between an aircraft carrier's lights, a difference between an oiler's lights, a fishing cargo ship.

Absolutely. Absolutely. So when I say that I saw this craft come out of the water, it's nighttime. So I want to be clear when I say what I saw, I saw a light and it was a decently bright light. So when you've been on the water as long as I have, You know the difference between an aircraft carrier's lights, a difference between an oiler's lights, a fishing cargo ship.

It's what we learn when we freshly come into the Navy, especially as an operations specialist. We have to learn silhouettes. We have to learn lighting structures, things of that nature. It's just part of what our job is. Being senior enlisted...

It's what we learn when we freshly come into the Navy, especially as an operations specialist. We have to learn silhouettes. We have to learn lighting structures, things of that nature. It's just part of what our job is. Being senior enlisted...

It's what we learn when we freshly come into the Navy, especially as an operations specialist. We have to learn silhouettes. We have to learn lighting structures, things of that nature. It's just part of what our job is. Being senior enlisted...

It's become part of very basic elementary things that you have to know when doing your job, kind of learning the basics first and then applying what you experience throughout your time and then kind of coming up with your solution as what you're seeing. So watching this light emerge from the water at a distance and then go into the air with a solid light, no blinking or anything,

It's become part of very basic elementary things that you have to know when doing your job, kind of learning the basics first and then applying what you experience throughout your time and then kind of coming up with your solution as what you're seeing. So watching this light emerge from the water at a distance and then go into the air with a solid light, no blinking or anything,

It's become part of very basic elementary things that you have to know when doing your job, kind of learning the basics first and then applying what you experience throughout your time and then kind of coming up with your solution as what you're seeing. So watching this light emerge from the water at a distance and then go into the air with a solid light, no blinking or anything,

I've never noticed that and witnessed that ever in my life. That's kind of what triggered me to go back to my instruments, check it out, talk with the watch team and ask them, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Let's use other sensors. Let's use what we got to see what we're witnessing. One thing I do want to add is that When I witnessed that, I wasn't feeling threatened.

I've never noticed that and witnessed that ever in my life. That's kind of what triggered me to go back to my instruments, check it out, talk with the watch team and ask them, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Let's use other sensors. Let's use what we got to see what we're witnessing. One thing I do want to add is that When I witnessed that, I wasn't feeling threatened.

I've never noticed that and witnessed that ever in my life. That's kind of what triggered me to go back to my instruments, check it out, talk with the watch team and ask them, are you seeing what I'm seeing? Let's use other sensors. Let's use what we got to see what we're witnessing. One thing I do want to add is that When I witnessed that, I wasn't feeling threatened.

I didn't think, you know, the ship is going to get attacked. And why didn't I think that? Because...

I didn't think, you know, the ship is going to get attacked. And why didn't I think that? Because...

I didn't think, you know, the ship is going to get attacked. And why didn't I think that? Because...

multiple reasons i'm not at a different level of roe i'm not postured in such a way off the coast of san diego where we're receiving intel that there's a significant level threat that we need to be at a higher threat level none of this is happening right we're off the coast we're doing workups we're you know doing training things of that nature uh so nothing made me think that we need to you know trigger a higher level of of threat warning um

multiple reasons i'm not at a different level of roe i'm not postured in such a way off the coast of san diego where we're receiving intel that there's a significant level threat that we need to be at a higher threat level none of this is happening right we're off the coast we're doing workups we're you know doing training things of that nature uh so nothing made me think that we need to you know trigger a higher level of of threat warning um

multiple reasons i'm not at a different level of roe i'm not postured in such a way off the coast of san diego where we're receiving intel that there's a significant level threat that we need to be at a higher threat level none of this is happening right we're off the coast we're doing workups we're you know doing training things of that nature uh so nothing made me think that we need to you know trigger a higher level of of threat warning um

I indicated what I saw to the tactical action officer, the TAO, who's in charge of Combat Information Center, ICC1. And it was just, let's do more investigating. Let's see what we're looking at. And that's why we got Sapphire to look in that direction and notice what we noticed.