Alexander Stubb

So now we need to sit down, discuss, get an off-ramp.

And at the end of the day, we need more Arctic security with European and American presence.

Well, any time there is a diplomatic issue, to put it diplomatically, between us, the transatlantic partners, I'm sure that the Kremlin is enjoying it.

I mean, and they will use it as they best can, as we saw, you know, I mean...

Foreign Minister of Russia Lavrov puts out a tweet and saying that for the U.S., Greenland is what Crimea is for Russia.

And obviously, you know, that's an insult.

And we all understand that.

So we always have to be careful with the Russians because they will use any moment and any possibility for good old information warfare propaganda.

Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I'm very pro-European.

I'm very pro-American.

And I'm a transatlanticist.

So it is in my interest and also based on my values that we have a closer relationship with the United States.

That's why I'm also very pragmatic.

I understand that the United States is the number one superpower.

And what we need to avoid, of course, is a certain disengagement.

At the same time, I have to say that Europe needs to...

use this moment as well you know it needs to beef up its defense it needs to get stronger economically and I think you know my big thesis is that it's going to be the global south that decides the new world order so that means that we need to engage more with the likes of India I really like the free trade agreement that the EU forged with Mercosur and I think people will start looking a little bit elsewhere but I really still want to contain and bring back the US as best we can

Okay, so two observations on this.

The first one is that I'm afraid that the Greenland issue will take all the oxygen here in Davos from the Ukraine dossier, which I still think is fundamentally important and acute.

But the second point is good news.