Alexander Stubb
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And obviously, you know, that's an insult.
And we all understand that.
So we always have to be careful with the Russians because they will use any moment and any possibility for good old information warfare propaganda.
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, I'm very pro-European.
I'm very pro-American.
And I'm a transatlanticist.
So it is in my interest and also based on my values that we have a closer relationship with the United States.
That's why I'm also very pragmatic.
I understand that the United States is the number one superpower.
And what we need to avoid, of course, is a certain disengagement.
At the same time, I have to say that Europe needs to...
use this moment as well you know it needs to beef up its defense it needs to get stronger economically and I think you know my big thesis is that it's going to be the global south that decides the new world order so that means that we need to engage more with the likes of India I really like the free trade agreement that the EU forged with Mercosur and I think people will start looking a little bit elsewhere but I really still want to contain and bring back the US as best we can
Okay, so two observations on this.
The first one is that I'm afraid that the Greenland issue will take all the oxygen here in Davos from the Ukraine dossier, which I still think is fundamentally important and acute.
But the second point is good news.
Ever since Jared Kushner came into the game, actually in Geneva right after the G20 summit, and we had another meeting in Berlin and then in Paris, we have a lot of more practicality.
So we basically have, depends on how you count, six documents or two plus five documents.
The good news is that Ukraine, the United States, and the Coalition of the Willing of Europe, we're on the same page.
The big question is, are the Russians?
I'm quite skeptical about that.