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Alexandr (Alex) Wang

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I don't think at this point, realistically, we can stop them from having this capability that I described.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So then you go to the next layer down.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So Intel.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Well, the next layer down, the next two things that you look at is, okay, how does AI impact Intel?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And how does AI, how can we, what is the adversarial AI dynamic?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Like, can we use our AIs to sabotage their AIs?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Can they use their AIs to sabotage ours?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And it's like AI on AI warfare, effectively.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

Then when you look at that scenario, okay, so let's dig into that.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

The first level analysis here is kind of what we were talking about before, which is that probably just boils down to how many copies of these AI systems do I have running versus how many copies do you have running?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So it turns into a numbers game.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

If I have 10,000 AI copies running and you only have 100 AI copies running, then I'm still going to run circles around you.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

And that boils down to who else?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

How so?

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So let's say you have 100 AIs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I have 10,000 AIs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I will take half of my AIs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

I will take 5,000 of my AIs and just focus them on hacking your AIs.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#208 Alexandr Wang - CEO, Scale AI

So they're all going to be looking for vulnerabilities in your information architecture, in your data centers.