Alexis Ohanian

married to a black woman, you have a societal gulf, right? Between us in terms of the ways we've experienced our lives, right? In the American hierarchy of things, like, you know, we have very different lived experiences. You just set aside, obviously, the fame, notoriety, queer stuff.

married to a black woman, you have a societal gulf, right? Between us in terms of the ways we've experienced our lives, right? In the American hierarchy of things, like, you know, we have very different lived experiences. You just set aside, obviously, the fame, notoriety, queer stuff.

But like, even if we just operated this life as two random people with our makeups, we'd have very different points of view, experiences, all that stuff. And it's probably the

But like, even if we just operated this life as two random people with our makeups, we'd have very different points of view, experiences, all that stuff. And it's probably the

hardest and best element to the relationship where like the table stakes are we love each other we've made two incredible humans together we will do anything i mean believe me the two she i she jokes that i'm like the psychopathic dad like there's an armenian dad meme in here by the way like we're very protective of our kids but she's super mama so like we have things that we care so so deeply about that we know we're on the same team for and

hardest and best element to the relationship where like the table stakes are we love each other we've made two incredible humans together we will do anything i mean believe me the two she i she jokes that i'm like the psychopathic dad like there's an armenian dad meme in here by the way like we're very protective of our kids but she's super mama so like we have things that we care so so deeply about that we know we're on the same team for and

And so it's probably the best way of all the ways to be checked on like a blind spot, let's say. It's best to have it come from someone who you know cares so much. And that's where the growth happens. That's the tension.

And so it's probably the best way of all the ways to be checked on like a blind spot, let's say. It's best to have it come from someone who you know cares so much. And that's where the growth happens. That's the tension.

And so like if I say something or do something, and again, nothing crazy here, but like if I say something or do something and she's able to shine a light on and be like, hey, did you notice, blah, blah, blah, or hey, this is like – bringing up these things to help me have better awareness because look, I got two black daughters. I want to make sure I'm showing up the best way I can for them.

And so like if I say something or do something, and again, nothing crazy here, but like if I say something or do something and she's able to shine a light on and be like, hey, did you notice, blah, blah, blah, or hey, this is like – bringing up these things to help me have better awareness because look, I got two black daughters. I want to make sure I'm showing up the best way I can for them.

It helps because I still feel that pain. Cause I'm like, I'm not a racist. I'm not a bad person. But then you sit with it for a second. You're like, okay, just hear, hear this feedback. Right. And, and it reminds me, it's just like going to the gym.

It helps because I still feel that pain. Cause I'm like, I'm not a racist. I'm not a bad person. But then you sit with it for a second. You're like, okay, just hear, hear this feedback. Right. And, and it reminds me, it's just like going to the gym.

You're pushing some weight and you're trying to get to that next level and it's going to hurt because that's where the muscles tear, but that's where it grows back stronger. And so I feel the same way when I take that, I'm like, ah, okay, fight the impulse. Don't be defensive and just listen and hear and try to understand. And, and I will say though, it's,

You're pushing some weight and you're trying to get to that next level and it's going to hurt because that's where the muscles tear, but that's where it grows back stronger. And so I feel the same way when I take that, I'm like, ah, okay, fight the impulse. Don't be defensive and just listen and hear and try to understand. And, and I will say though, it's,

and I've talked to other folks in interracial relationships, it is definitely, there's a dynamic there that creates new challenges, or even I think any cross-cultural relationship creates those challenges, I bet. I don't know if I was, I guess I'm a weird mid-Atlantic guy, but the difference between me and even a white person from Appalachia is going to have those cultural challenges, right?

and I've talked to other folks in interracial relationships, it is definitely, there's a dynamic there that creates new challenges, or even I think any cross-cultural relationship creates those challenges, I bet. I don't know if I was, I guess I'm a weird mid-Atlantic guy, but the difference between me and even a white person from Appalachia is going to have those cultural challenges, right?

But across those lines, that's where you get again, or with a relationship built on love, you get this opportunity to say, okay, like, let me try to learn and try to be a little better that I think helps. But like I said, it's probably the worst part is...

But across those lines, that's where you get again, or with a relationship built on love, you get this opportunity to say, okay, like, let me try to learn and try to be a little better that I think helps. But like I said, it's probably the worst part is...

the dynamic there's a reason we live in the middle of nowhere florida like i love being here in la but like i think we live in such a weird culture that you know the celebritization of things is just it's different and and one of the things that we always wanted for our girls is for them to have i mean they're not going to have a normal life but to not be living in it and and to have the ability to do that from

the dynamic there's a reason we live in the middle of nowhere florida like i love being here in la but like i think we live in such a weird culture that you know the celebritization of things is just it's different and and one of the things that we always wanted for our girls is for them to have i mean they're not going to have a normal life but to not be living in it and and to have the ability to do that from