Ali Block

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The Nocturnists · Two abortion providers grapple with their post-Roe reality · 9 Oct 2023 podcast

So there's just always that sort of meta narrative happening in the back of your head um at the at the clinics of the Red States.

But of course, you know, Nikki can probably talk to it better than I can.

Well, I think it's it's twofold.

So you have providers that are leaving, that are already have the skills, that are attending providers that have been living and working in their communities, that feel like they really can't stomach the moral harm that Nikki's talking about, that they can't practice what they feel is appropriate standard care, that the politicization

is too much and so they're leaving.

Um, I talk in the article about these two counties in northern Idaho that now have no obstetric providers.

So certainly you're seeing you're gonna see big impacts on communities there.

And then what we're gonna see unfold is sort of more what Nikki's talking about about the trainees and the decisions that they're making.

You know, the residents who had sort of already matched into programs when Dobbs came down, they were they are where they are.

But we have now a whole generation of medical students that are having to make the choice between going and training in areas where maybe their families are, maybe they grew up, maybe they their whole vision, you know, in life was to go back and serve those communities.

So they have to choose between that and getting the training that they want.

And what we know is that a lot of people stay where they do their residency training.

So if you have medical students who say, you know what, I'd really love to be, let's say, in Tennessee, but I want to learn abortion care, whether they're family medicine or OBGYN residence.

So I'm going to go to Chicago or I'm going to go to New York or I'm going to go to one of these states that isn't restricted to learn.

a lot of those folks are not coming back.

And so that is sort of an incalculable loss that those communities will suffer of not having the providers that really want to live and work there, there at all.

I think

And again, these folks that are really early in their careers that have fifty years potentially of practice and livelihood ahead of them aren't about to take that kind of risk.

We've talked to one provider, Linda Prine, who's a family medicine mentor of mine in New York City, who has spoken openly in the press.

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