Alison Cheperdak

And I think there's a lot to respect about that.

Yeah.

So my experience with him is that he's a good listener.

And is he someone that's studying protocol?

Maybe not.

But he has military aides.

He has a phenomenal advisor in the chief of protocol, Ambassador Monica Crowley.

And he really respects her.

I love her.

She's amazing.

He really, really respects her and he listens to his advisors.

And so, and I would say with etiquette and I talk about this, whether we're talking about the president of the United States or we're talking about an intern or anybody, it's not about memorizing rules for the sake of rules.

It's about showing kindness and respect and the way that we do things, whether it's like how you do a medal of honor ceremony or something like that.

That's how we show our kindness and our respect.

And I will say to a person, anyone who has been with the president and has spoken with him, he's very disarming and he's very charming.

And that's more important.

It's the way you make people feel.

It's not how you impress people with all of the manners that you know.

I did.

So I, and I got a certification in both British and North American etiquette, not necessarily thinking that I would teach it.