Alistair Campbell

Actually, one of them was totally against AI and just wants to stop the whole damn thing.

But one of the other people who's involved in this discussion, having said that the UK is actually extraordinarily well placed.

America and China are absolutely running away with everything.

That is true.

But if you were looking for a kind of, you know, best placed to get into the runner up slot, it is the UK.

And this was an American guy who basically said a lot of it was about our education, but also about some of the stuff that the government was doing.

He mentioned that two billion pound thing that we're doing on quantum last week.

But essentially the infrastructure that's been built, and I guess Rishi Sunak was part of this when he was prime minister as well.

He asked us a question, basically wanted us to put the boot into Richard Tice.

Since when you took us down the Ed Miliband rabbit hole and I then led you into the AI rabbit hole.

So Vinod, what I'm going to do to hit back at you, because I feel I should defend Ed Miliband because he was my politician of the year last year.

He's a regular listener.

I'm going to ask whether he might do his own rebuttal for the newsletter.

I think that would be a very good thing to do.

Because I want to get back to the point about why reform don't like being scrutinized.

It's very, very true.

Look at Farage.

I mean, Farage will normally leap in front of any TV camera anywhere in the world to give you his bonhomie and his shtick.

This 5 million donation where he keeps changing his story, he's nowhere to be seen.

The funding generally of reform, nowhere to be seen.