Alistair Campbell

And therefore, that's why Trump invited him.

Now, he's not becoming one of the billion pound permanent members.

He just said he's going to support it.

But the point I was going to make is that what the Canada, UK, Germany, France, etc.

Imagine if they developed a board of middle power prosperity.

Imagine if they actually created a new government.

a new grouping, which was explicit.

This is what they're about.

And this happens all the time.

The G20 didn't exist until the crash.

And Gordon Brown, I think, led the creation of that.

BRICS, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, that was a new formation, which is now developing.

So I think actually they should use this to say there are going to be

We're going to have global summits about the environment, and America and China won't be there.

We're going to have a global summit about the effect of AI, and America and China won't be there.

You make it specific.

We are middle powers in this new hegemonic world that he described, and we are going to have structures that come together on a regular basis.

And you can have people who don't necessarily share all your values.

You would maybe have the Emiratis and the Saudis there.

But you're discussing common challenges in a new forum.