Alistair Johnston

It's wonderful that Stevie Caldwell is in a back room somewhere, like hijacking his equipment, trying to...

Possible.

They're absolute legends.

Have you ever enjoyed a cold beer with one of those two gentlemen?

Jesse's got that energy just from the times.

I mean, you might say something differently.

You might have had run ins with him.

Yeah, but he has that energy vibe of a coach like just everything's high tempo.

He's always smiling.

I don't know if it's for TV, but he's really got a good vibe to him.

All right, be honest.

How many run-ins have you had where, like, F you contest?

Because I used to – I hated – my coaching relationships, it was like, close the door, let's talk man-to-man here.

We've got to air some things out.

Isn't that a coach move?

Fair enough.

You make me fly across the world and then you tell me that I... Gotta be better.

I like that mentality, though, because if you just go into those games and you're like, this is a superior opponent, we have no chance, let's try to get through this.

You get smoked.

Can you hammer beers at 4 p.m.?