Allison Pugh

So it was like the arousal moved from the storyteller to the listener as the storyteller was telling the story and as the listener was conveying that they understood and saw the other person. So it was a real sharing or spreading of the emotional load. It's a really beautifully designed study.

So it was like the arousal moved from the storyteller to the listener as the storyteller was telling the story and as the listener was conveying that they understood and saw the other person. So it was a real sharing or spreading of the emotional load. It's a really beautifully designed study.

So it was like the arousal moved from the storyteller to the listener as the storyteller was telling the story and as the listener was conveying that they understood and saw the other person. So it was a real sharing or spreading of the emotional load. It's a really beautifully designed study.

Tell me the story she told you. Sure. Erin, she sees one patient. who is intubated and he is so angry at being intubated. He didn't want to be intubated, even though the doctors told him he had to be because he would die otherwise. He couldn't speak, obviously, through the tube. He also couldn't write because he was on, I guess, medications that made that difficult.

Tell me the story she told you. Sure. Erin, she sees one patient. who is intubated and he is so angry at being intubated. He didn't want to be intubated, even though the doctors told him he had to be because he would die otherwise. He couldn't speak, obviously, through the tube. He also couldn't write because he was on, I guess, medications that made that difficult.

Tell me the story she told you. Sure. Erin, she sees one patient. who is intubated and he is so angry at being intubated. He didn't want to be intubated, even though the doctors told him he had to be because he would die otherwise. He couldn't speak, obviously, through the tube. He also couldn't write because he was on, I guess, medications that made that difficult.

So he's just steaming full of fury. And then comes Erin and she sees him And she sees this bottled up anger. And she says, you know, why don't you take this Kleenex box and like throw it, throw it against the wall. And he says, He was so astounded, so relieved and powerfully moved by that, that he like grabs her arm and pulls her in and she sits with him for, you know, 15 minutes or 20 minutes.

So he's just steaming full of fury. And then comes Erin and she sees him And she sees this bottled up anger. And she says, you know, why don't you take this Kleenex box and like throw it, throw it against the wall. And he says, He was so astounded, so relieved and powerfully moved by that, that he like grabs her arm and pulls her in and she sits with him for, you know, 15 minutes or 20 minutes.

So he's just steaming full of fury. And then comes Erin and she sees him And she sees this bottled up anger. And she says, you know, why don't you take this Kleenex box and like throw it, throw it against the wall. And he says, He was so astounded, so relieved and powerfully moved by that, that he like grabs her arm and pulls her in and she sits with him for, you know, 15 minutes or 20 minutes.

And then the next time she sees him, it's about, it's a couple of days later and he's emerged from the procedure and he's no longer intubated. And he says to her, there is nothing like being in the worst moment of your life and you feel like someone understands you. And that is such a perfect capture of what being seen feels like and what it can do for you in your worst moments.

And then the next time she sees him, it's about, it's a couple of days later and he's emerged from the procedure and he's no longer intubated. And he says to her, there is nothing like being in the worst moment of your life and you feel like someone understands you. And that is such a perfect capture of what being seen feels like and what it can do for you in your worst moments.

And then the next time she sees him, it's about, it's a couple of days later and he's emerged from the procedure and he's no longer intubated. And he says to her, there is nothing like being in the worst moment of your life and you feel like someone understands you. And that is such a perfect capture of what being seen feels like and what it can do for you in your worst moments.

Exactly. And there's actually a lot of research by psychologists and neuroscientists that show that, you know, when someone's holding your hand, it can alleviate pain. But here's an articulated moment where Hiram, the patient, is saying to Erin, you saw me, and that was transporting.

Exactly. And there's actually a lot of research by psychologists and neuroscientists that show that, you know, when someone's holding your hand, it can alleviate pain. But here's an articulated moment where Hiram, the patient, is saying to Erin, you saw me, and that was transporting.

Exactly. And there's actually a lot of research by psychologists and neuroscientists that show that, you know, when someone's holding your hand, it can alleviate pain. But here's an articulated moment where Hiram, the patient, is saying to Erin, you saw me, and that was transporting.

So this is a really voluminous area. I have a couple of favorites. One author reviewed 1,000 articles with 355,000 students and came away with this meta-finding that, you know, among school-age children, he says, the effect size of teacher-student relationships is bigger than most typical educational innovations or curriculum changes.

So this is a really voluminous area. I have a couple of favorites. One author reviewed 1,000 articles with 355,000 students and came away with this meta-finding that, you know, among school-age children, he says, the effect size of teacher-student relationships is bigger than most typical educational innovations or curriculum changes.

So this is a really voluminous area. I have a couple of favorites. One author reviewed 1,000 articles with 355,000 students and came away with this meta-finding that, you know, among school-age children, he says, the effect size of teacher-student relationships is bigger than most typical educational innovations or curriculum changes.

So like the teacher-student relationship that underlies whether or not someone is learning algebra or can, you know, parse a sentence, that is more powerful, has a greater impact than, say, standard curriculum changes or other innovations. You might expect that to be true for the younger kids, maybe, but maybe less true for middle school or high schoolers. And actually, it's the opposite.

So like the teacher-student relationship that underlies whether or not someone is learning algebra or can, you know, parse a sentence, that is more powerful, has a greater impact than, say, standard curriculum changes or other innovations. You might expect that to be true for the younger kids, maybe, but maybe less true for middle school or high schoolers. And actually, it's the opposite.