Amanda Montel

I might avoid saying things like you're brainwashed.

It's just, it doesn't feel respectful.

Even if we deep down believe that they are brainwashed and in a cult, it's not a productive accusation to wield.

And then also like if,

We're specifically talking to someone who's in, you know, an anti-science type of organization or community or whatever.

I also might suggest avoiding trying to disprove their beliefs with, you know, proof from the NIH or like a study that you read from an outlet or a publication that they've deemed contaminated because these groups really demonize certain media sources.

They always have.

I mean, like,

Right, right.

Right.

As counterintuitive as it feels, if someone is really, really deep in one of those anti-science groups, I might not defend your position with citations from the CDC.

And instead, I might encourage, you know, just like recognizing their humanity.

And this is easier said than done.

There are some people who you might just need to like take a pause on your relationship with them, you know, because...

It is really tough to get into conversations with someone who seems far gone.

But if this is a loved one who you really care about and you have no interest in distancing yourself from them, then showing them your empathy, your compassion, your listening skills.

Because ultimately, I do think from what I've observed and reported on, I do believe deep down in my heart that what is driving them toward this group and these beliefs is

Yeah.

Yeah.

Wow.