Ambassador Robert Blackwill

And I think, sadly, the war is likely to go on because I think that there is a determination in Ukraine not to lose their statehood.

And that's what Putin, of course, wants to accomplish.

And I just hope the Americans, the American administration, are not going to assist the

President Putin in that by putting pressure on Ukraine to give up its sovereignty.

Well, what can he do?

That's exactly the right question.

His progress on the battlefield is painfully slow and doesn't seem to accelerate now.

So I think there's no breakout for Putin in the military campaign.

So the strategy would be to persuade President Trump to put so much pressure on Ukraine that it will abandon its determination to retain its sovereignty and succumb.

Well, how could President Trump do that?

He could say, we will no longer support you with intelligence information.

which would be a catastrophic development.

It is.

Exactly.

And it helps them with their targeting, with moving their forces, all the rest.

Well, he can, as a presidential actor with unlimited power in that regard, he can end it tomorrow.

And he could say, if you do not accept X, Y, Z, I'm going to end it.

Second, I'm going to stop selling

weapons to Europe, which they then pass on to you.

And Europe cannot keep you sufficiently supplied with especially artillery shells, but other things as well, and so forth.