Amin

Okay, so let's get to Stephen A.

's response here in a second.

But just so that you know, I mean, this goes without saying, this is something that I would say to Stephen A. Smith and probably have, because he finds himself –

to great profit in the center of these race and politic wars obviously not a great look for anybody to have a fight with the white woman and then come back strongest at the black woman when you're critical uh... because steven a smith lit kerry champion on fire taking credit i think with truths that he was saying about really trying to help her career and this is i believe

as hurt and betrayed as you will ever hear in an honest fashion what Stephen A. Smith is saying, because even before you've heard this entire sound, what Zaslow is saying about Carrie Champion there, when he says that's the part that's wrong, well, no, the part that would be wrong is what Stephen A. accuses her of here, which is saying, I never said those things about you and Jemele Hill.

What thing

are you talking about?

And at that point it's beholden on Carrie Champion to show us what those things are because here Stephen A. Smith is just accusing her of flat-out lying in order to get the clicks that come from being the person who piles on in this situation and takes out Stephen A. Smith who is having all sorts of trouble with the black community because of the number of things that he's saying that are disparaging to the black community.

That's the that's, I guess, the dirtiest part of that sound.

But that's a shocked, hurt and betrayed Stephen A. Smith.

Like whatever it is that you might think about the character persona or wherever it is that he's a wrestling character who's made for television.

That one hurts.

And it's one of the things that sucks at being at the center of this war.

I will also say to you.

It's exactly what ESPN didn't want and it's exactly what ESPN chose when they put Pat McAfee on and cowboy hats and no politics and flannel shirts.

It's a conscious decision and we're gonna interview Donald Trump because they didn't want these wars

near the sports and now that steven a's got more power to do this stuff in politics he's not allowed to do that on the espn he's got two different deals now one's a sports career the biggest you've ever seen in sports and one's a giant political career now that's got real possibility because he is he is in a really useful lane

to use all of the sports stardom and media platform to now become a real, true political player.

And it doesn't matter whether you agree with him or not.

Are you listening to him?