Amy Poehler

Very excited.

Of course, but you know, women always feel obliged to say that and they don't have to.

I fucking take it back.

Because no, you're absolutely right.

Nobody does anything alone.

Yeah.

Nobody does anything alone.

But you're making a really interesting point, which is like, which I see this in you and women that you're coming up with, which is this, you know, this moment where you have to kind of decide to take ownership of the stuff that you want to make.

and decide that you're ready to do it.

Of course.

Well, that's the thing about directing, and I want to talk to you about this because you've been really... I love how you talk about directing and producing and writing and show running.

Yeah.

Which is, you know, people act like everything is like a secret room.

Like, we learned this from Hamilton.

Yeah.

Like, there's a room where it happens and only certain people are allowed in it.

And there's a language and a vocabulary and only one way to do something.

And it keeps people out of the room.

It's incredible once you get inside the room.

So you're going through your Saturn's return.