Amy Walter

Of course, Ested.

Happy to be here with you.

I will try to put this in terms—you went through that so smartly and so quickly, Ested, that I will— And jumped over a lot of stuff in the process.

You did, but you got to the core of it.

And I think that's what I will try to do as well.

I think before those two seminal cases, the Virginia Supreme Court case, which you mentioned, that threw out the Virginia map that had passed through a referendum—

And the Supreme Court decision in Louisiana v. Kelly, which basically ended out the Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act, neither side looked like they were going to have an advantage in the redistricting wars.

The back and forth basically was going to turn into a draw.

But those two decisions have given Republicans something like

let's give them a four, five, six seed advantage when all is said and done on the number of seeds that they drew in their favor.

Now, as you, I think we're going, your next point, you're going to say, okay, but like,

How does that actually work?

Like, are they definitely going to gain all of these seats?

How is that going to work?

And so a lot of that is dependent on assuming that Republicans win in all the districts that they redrew.

In other words, we talk about Texas and the number that comes up is five.

Republicans drew five districts.

Republican-leaning districts.

But there's no guarantee they're going to win all five of those.

It's probably as likely that they win just three of those instead of five of those.