Anastasia Nicolazzi
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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Listed in the register on the night of Kevin James' murder was the name Lisa Nash, a name that Michelle thought sounded awfully familiar.
Suddenly, all of Michelle's suspicions about Lisa's behavior in the immediate aftermath of Kevin's murder were becoming much more relevant and Lisa's friendship with Shelby much more concerning.
Michelle's gut instinct as a veteran detective told her something was definitely amiss.
And so Lisa James was led to a separate interview room, and the murder victim's widow sat for the first of several interviews, centering not on what she heard or saw on the night of the murder, but what she might have known about it beforehand.
And George Taylor had mentioned to police that he sometimes bought marijuana from Kevin James. So this theory from Lisa was not completely out of the realm of possibility. But what was much more telling to Michelle was Lisa's sudden change of heart from being a grieving widow to informing on her husband's potential criminal activity.
As you can hear in her recorded interview, Lisa adamantly denied being in a relationship with Shelby Harris.
And it's almost like you can hear it by her questions. Like Michelle is fishing. Like she's trying to set the hook and just see if Lisa will bite. Because again, if her hunch is correct, she just might get that answer based on the way that she frames her question. And Lisa thinks, oh, maybe she knows. And I think that's exactly what Michelle is trying to do.
But, you know, even while Lisa continues to deny, deny, look at what Michelle is learning.
Because either way, like a fair or not, they're supposedly close friends. But what Michelle is seeing is that Lisa is already starting to turn against Shelby. And so a little while later in the questioning, when she was asked again about what she knew about their murder now of George Taylor, Lisa stayed on the defensive.
She thought he was going to tell. In other words, Shelby feared that George Taylor was about to cooperate with police and tell the truth about their plot to murder Kevin James.
But would this version of the truth stand up to scrutiny? And was there even more to the story yet to unravel?
Detective Michelle Amacone's theory? Shelby recruited her friend George Taylor to commit the crime and then had him executed when she feared he would spill the beans of what they'd done to police. Here's Michelle and Lisa James talking about that very real and frightening possibility.
Kevin's 12-year-old son had seen Taylor's car in front of their house, but couldn't say for certain that the man he saw fleeing was Taylor. And this being 1998, there were no cell phones to trace, no location data to track Taylor or Shelby's movements on the day of either murder.
Confronted with Lisa's insinuations about Shelby's involvement in her husband's murder, Shelby fired back with a brow-raising statement of her own.
Certainly a strange strategy, denying you are capable of murder while still revealing what you just might do if betrayed by a friend.
So we have discussed before how it is legally permissible for law enforcement to use some deception in their efforts to speaking with and getting statements from a suspect. And just for quick review, the reasoning is that a suspect can answer however they want.
If they didn't do anything, don't know anything, whatever, no matter what a detective says, they are going to only have presumably one answer to give, right? The lie, if you will, shouldn't matter unless you're guilty and then it just might be the thing that spurs the truth.
And while Shelby was unlikely to believe the ruse, Michelle suspected that her two other potential accomplices, Terrence Bledsoe and Joe Jensen, that with them, this letter, it just might work.
Believing that he had already been incriminated by George Taylor, Bledsoe laid out his version of the events leading up to Kevin and Taylor's deaths.
He also confirmed Michelle's hunch that the cold-blooded plan was all hatched by Shelby Harris.
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