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Anastasia Nicolazzi

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2796 total appearances

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Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

Safe to say if she wasn't a person of interest before, she certainly was now. But soon enough, Mary Jo is able to compose herself and an excuse for her strange behavior.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

Safe to say if she wasn't a person of interest before, she certainly was now. But soon enough, Mary Jo is able to compose herself and an excuse for her strange behavior.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

In that answer, it directly contradicted what Yvonne's kids had told police. Remember, her daughters had overheard Mary Jo and their mom talking at the door.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

In that answer, it directly contradicted what Yvonne's kids had told police. Remember, her daughters had overheard Mary Jo and their mom talking at the door.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

So this is a small town, and Jack Owen and Mary Jo Luntzman are both in the horse business and have known each other for years. It's not unthinkable that they would have interacted in the days before Yvonne's murder. But given the rumors about their ongoing relationship and the tension between Jack and Yvonne, it did raise suspicions that Mary Jo could be hiding something.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

So this is a small town, and Jack Owen and Mary Jo Luntzman are both in the horse business and have known each other for years. It's not unthinkable that they would have interacted in the days before Yvonne's murder. But given the rumors about their ongoing relationship and the tension between Jack and Yvonne, it did raise suspicions that Mary Jo could be hiding something.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

Which is more than a little creepy because it kind of suggests that she was either watching them or somehow knew when Jack and Yvonne had plans to go out. And according to investigators, these mysterious phone calls to Yvonne's house were backed up by phone records.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

Which is more than a little creepy because it kind of suggests that she was either watching them or somehow knew when Jack and Yvonne had plans to go out. And according to investigators, these mysterious phone calls to Yvonne's house were backed up by phone records.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

So let's just talk for a beat about alibis. In this case, Mary Jo did provide details of where she was during the time of the murder. She said she was at home doing chores. But from an investigator's perspective, a solid alibi is one that can be verified, either by a witness or even digital evidence like a cell phone ping or credit card activity.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

So let's just talk for a beat about alibis. In this case, Mary Jo did provide details of where she was during the time of the murder. She said she was at home doing chores. But from an investigator's perspective, a solid alibi is one that can be verified, either by a witness or even digital evidence like a cell phone ping or credit card activity.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

And in this case, Mary Jo provided none of that, just her word.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

And in this case, Mary Jo provided none of that, just her word.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

And on top of that, Mary Jo also admitted to police that she owned a gun that matched the caliber of the bullets that killed Yvonne.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

And on top of that, Mary Jo also admitted to police that she owned a gun that matched the caliber of the bullets that killed Yvonne.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

Investigators asked Mary Jo's permission if they could collect the boots and have them analyzed.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

Investigators asked Mary Jo's permission if they could collect the boots and have them analyzed.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

It's not great, but if I'm part of the defense, I'd quickly point out that Mary Jo is surely not the only person in the world that owns that particular brand of snow boots, and I'm sure the investigators in this case knew that too.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

It's not great, but if I'm part of the defense, I'd quickly point out that Mary Jo is surely not the only person in the world that owns that particular brand of snow boots, and I'm sure the investigators in this case knew that too.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

But as Holly pointed out, there was another way they could narrow that down. Because remember, those prints, they were really, really small.

Anatomy of Murder
Boots in the Snow (Yvonne Menke)

But as Holly pointed out, there was another way they could narrow that down. Because remember, those prints, they were really, really small.