Anastasia Nicolazzi
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1,398 appearances
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1 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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While this was unfolding, Ryan attended a continuing education course, a requirement for his work as lead homicide investigator. During that course, Ryan had a lightbulb moment.
It sprays a sterile solution and then vacuums it back up, collecting any DNA particles and fibers along the way. It can be more effective than the swabbing method, which is more regularly used for DNA extraction.
But testing Kathy's evidence would be far from simple.
It was decided that despite the high chance of failure, testing the evidence in Kathy Holly's homicide case was important to try. The MBAC system, which would be used, might be the one thing that could overcome the degradation of evidence collected and preserved in this case.
And he's like, hold on. The police department was committed to testing the evidence, but they needed a cost-effective way to do it. You know, that is one thing, Scott, that obviously if we think about it, people will get it. But I don't think that everyone necessarily thinks about it right away that, you know, you actually need the dollars to be able to spend to do some of this work.
And that is something that specifically smaller departments come up against all the time.
Ryan then reached out to nonprofit organizations, one of which was in fact established by the Audiochuck Network.
The next hurdle Ryan faced was related to CODIS, which stands for the Combined DNA Index System. It's an FBI tool that enables forensic labs to exchange and compare DNA profiles electronically.
It took extra work to make sure the testing would be CODIS eligible. Once that had been worked out, there was one last logistical hurdle, getting Kathy's evidence down to Deerfield Beach, Florida, where the specific lab was located.
They were all risks that Ryan and his team weren't willing to take. So for them, it left only one solution.
they eventually made it to the lab and signed the evidence over. The lab estimated it would take between six to eight months to complete the testing.
And then they waited and waited. 14 months passed before any word came back from the lab.
Ryan heard his phone ringing and looked down. It was the DNA expert he had been working with. Even though he was up in the mountains on vacation, he picked up the phone. She had gotten the results back.
The moment of confirmation was deeply memorable, not just for its significance to the case, but to the answers it would finally bring Kathy's family. The results were brought to the local prosecutor and Kathy's case was officially marked closed.
For Ryan, solving Kathy's murder had always been about giving her family the answers they had been waiting for for so long. Kathy's parents had been growing older and their time to get those answers was running out.
Ryan and another detective who had spent years on the case alerted Kathy's family that there had been a major development. her parents and three siblings gathered together for a meeting.
Lindahl's interest in Kathy had likely begun before that night. They believe he had seen her on one of his many visits to the shopping center and had discovered where she lived. Lindahl had likely staked out her apartment complex and waited for the right time to attack.
In a case where no courtroom justice could be served, Ryan hoped that the answers would at least bring Kathy's family a measure of peace.
The new information also gave Kathy's then-boyfriend, who had been with her the night she disappeared, a sense of closure as well.
For Ryan, closing Kathy's case was both a personal and professional milestone, a reflection of why he became an investigator in the first place.
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