Anastasia Nicolazzi
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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From text messages to her husband, they learned that he arrived home that day at about 6.50 p.m., giving investigators a good indicator of his time of death. But it also confirmed to them that the door at the time was still several miles from home.
What Bedore didn't know, and I don't know, maybe perhaps few people do, is that even when you delete a text app from your phone, that texting data still lives on the company's servers. So investigators were able to get a search warrant for the TextNow app and recover that stored data.
Fisher was a local community college student originally from California and a former infantryman in the U.S. Army. And Bedore's text data revealed the entire chronology of their seven-month relationship.
While Bedore's phone data didn't turn up any texts making direct mention of a plan to kill her husband, it did reveal texts that seemed to set the stage.
Police chose not to re-interview Bedour regarding her relationship with Fisher, and there was a sound procedural reason for this tactic.
The receipt was dated January 31st, just four days prior to the murder.
It was looking likely that Fisher was the man that killed Amar. What investigators still did not know was whether he acted alone or was assisted in his plan by Bedore.
But that wasn't all investigators got. They also left the store with strong evidence suggesting Fisher had an accomplice.
The wealth of circumstantial evidence convinced authorities in Lansing, Michigan, that Baddour Alyassari and her boyfriend, Jacob Fisher, conspired to murder Baddour's husband and father of their children, Ammar.
Another indication of Fisher's lack of remorse, the revelation that shortly after he was identified as the prime suspect, after the murder, Jacob Fisher had showed up at a local watering hole, boasting that he had killed someone and needed money to get out of town.
Okay, Scott, can we just talk about the fact that someone goes to a bar and starts boasting about murdering someone and needs help to get out of town? Does that even make sense that someone thinks that that's going to work out and that somebody's not going to tip off somebody else, i.e. equaling the police?
And I think to your point, Scott, and I think it is a good point that as we know, people say all sorts of things and many people may have just taken it as like, oh, he's boasting and really not thought much about it. But, you know, it's also interesting that as much as he talked in the bar when he was arrested, he chose not to make any statements to police.
And so based on the evidence that law enforcement has collected at this point, which included footage from a dash cam that Bedore had operating in her truck, investigators formed a theory as to how the pair had worked together to commit murder.
Investigators were certain that Badur Alyasari had conspired with Fisher to kill her husband. But it was prosecutors who would need to present a compelling case, making the strength of the circumstantial evidence clear enough to hopefully prove it in court.
A hundred percent. But as we all know, like I like circumstantial evidence cases. And to me, it is like the truck that he's in when he's purchasing the ax and that alarm, like, of course, that is pretty strong evidence. It's exactly how I'm starting, not only my opening, but my closing.
And while domestic abuse can definitely be a precursor to more extreme violence, including murder, there was no actual evidence that she was telling the truth. There were no complaints ever filed, no visits from police, and more importantly, most importantly, I should say, no one close to Badur Alyasari who could verify her claims.
In fact, Ammar's sister had her own suspicions that her sister-in-law was the one who had actually harbored dangerous resentments about her marriage.
But Dora Ayasari had claimed from the start that she had no knowledge of the murder. If this had been true, it was only logical that she would have been enraged at Jacob Fisher for killing Amar, her husband, and the father of her children. However, her actions post-arrest and prior to trial seemed to contradict her denials.
In November 2019, Jason Fisher was the first to face a jury. Charged with murder and conspiracy to commit murder, he entered a plea of not guilty.
It definitely doesn't. But again, still technically on its face, it's all circumstantial. And under Cross, the defense tried to convince the jury that prosecutors couldn't definitively place Fisher in the Al-Isari home on the day of the murder.
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