Anastasia Nicolazzi
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first heard Nov 2024
last heard Jun 2025
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Why do they do certain things with items of clothing? Because that is a vision they have in their mind and it means something to them. So again- It could go either way, but it is certainly, I think, more than odd and would be an extremely unlikely coincidence that this happened so close in time with two women that had been found murdered.
Despite their cooperation, investigators were making little headway in either case. Then on October 12, 1974, less than six months after Janet's murder, another young woman was killed on the Stanford campus.
Three brutal murders, three young female victims, the rash of unsolved killings became known as the Stamford murders. But were the three murders all connected?
By late 1974, police in the Bay Area were investigating a disturbing string of unsolved sexual attacks and murders. Three women had been assaulted and killed, Leslie Perloff, Janet Taylor, and Arliss Perry. The crimes came to be known as the Stanford murders.
In Leslie's case, evidence that had been collected from the crime scene was put into storage. Items that included the scarf that was used to strangle her, her rain boots, and even the fingernails that were clipped and had been tested for blood. The case file, filled with dead ends and unanswered questions, was put on a shelf. Years went by.
While Noe saw no obvious gaps in the investigation, he also knew how much forensic science and technology had advanced since the 1970s.
You know, Scott, I thought this was pretty impressive. You know, you certainly hope that evidence is always going to remain. But here we're talking about decades and specifically at a time that they weren't really that advanced as far as forensics to have found this and for it to be preserved in a usable form. That was a tip of the hat for me.
What remained to be seen was whether A, there was indeed foreign DNA present, and B, whether it had degraded or was still in a condition that made it possible to create a DNA profile that could be used to potentially identify a suspect.
First stop, CODIS, the combined DNA index system that can help match an unknown DNA profile with either a known offender already in the system or any other unidentified DNA from other crime scenes.
Noe was also aware about the emerging forensic science field that it might hold the key to finding Leslie's killer, and that was genetic genealogy. And obviously, we've talked about that before. But basically, you know, people submit their own samples to various companies, whether it's to create family trees or find long-lost relatives.
And at some point, police figured out that they could use those same databases to help solve cases, too. So in this case, while it wouldn't necessarily return the name of Leslie's killer, it might give you a brother or an uncle, and police could then take it from there.
And it didn't take long before GEDmatch returned the name of a possible second or third cousin of the person who left his DNA under Leslie Perlov's fingernails. Police were then able to trace that family tree right back to Northern California.
The details of the report read like a death foretold.
There, John Getrue met a classmate named Margaret Williams. One evening, they went to a school function and Getrue offered to walk Margaret home.
But as a juvenile offender, Getru was released when he turned 18. Shortly afterwards, he moved back to California.
They also figured out where to find him.
And so a plan was formed to secretively obtain Getrie's DNA.
investigators strongly suspected that they had their man, but they now hope that they had the actual evidence to prove it.
In the interview room at the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Office, Noe sat down with the person he believed had strangled and killed Leslie Perlov, a man that had been walking free for over 40 years.
Using forensic genealogy, police in Palo Alto, California had positively ID'd DNA recovered from the 1973 murder of Leslie Perloff.
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