Anders Fredriksson

How much?

We joined the Alchemist Accelerator, and we got in an extra, I think it was 150, 200, something like that.

I can't remember exactly the exact numbers.

But we got into the Alchemist Accelerator, which is a prominent B2B accelerator, and that's what we...

focused a lot of the development and we had a lot of good growth.

It was not, no, we didn't spend a lot of cash on that.

There was a lot of, a lot of the investment was made with, with the stock as well.

I think it was, I don't know if that's a number is actually official though, but I would say maybe, maybe in the 25 to 50 range.

But so I told you 500 then.

Yeah.

So we had raised, we raised a total of 880 or 900 or so for, for total for probably.

No, that worked well and we were building and growing quite well during the accelerator.

At the same time as we were sort of going towards demo day for the accelerator, we were approached by Outbound Works.

So during Dreamforce, I had a beer with Outbound Works founder, or one of their founders, Ben, and we were talking about our different strategies and goals for our companies.

and realized that we were essentially trying to achieve the same thing, which is automating sales development.

They had taken a slightly different approach from this, where they were attacking it from a services perspective, and we attacked it from a technology perspective.

So there and then we decided that, okay, let's try and make an acquisition work, and then we... Are you talking about Ben McCarthy?

No, Ben Sardella.

Okay, got it.

So Ben Sardella, he's a big, he's, yeah, he's a big guy in the sales, uh, sales community.