Anderson Cooper

Chanel has a new book out, Through Mom's Eyes, which is full of life lessons and stories from the mother's well-known, highly accomplished people.

But our conversation is about the loss of Uche and Chanel's grandmother, who died seven months later at the end of 2025.

Thank you for doing this.

It's still so recent.

I just did an interview with a woman who has a very aggressive form of brain cancer, and she's trying to prepare her kids.

And she's writing letters to her kids for the future.

My mom's dad died when she was 15 months old, and she had this fantasy her entire life that he had left her some letter somewhere that might arrive in the mail.

And I sort of had that fantasy for my dad as well.

I mean, how do you do this with kids?

Can your kids talk about it now?

Do you tell stories about him?

We're going to take a short break.

Coming up, I talk with Chanel about the loss of her grandmother seven months after Uche died.

Welcome back to my conversation with Chanel Jones.

You said somewhere that you felt like you've had to keep running.

I certainly know that feeling very well, and I've done that for most of my life.

Do you feel like you are grieving?

Do you see joy as the opposite of grief?

Your grandmother just died.

I filmed this video, Alana.