André Duqum

There's a spiritual truth in that.

There's also a relative truth that sometimes you need to create enough external stability to allow your system to relax enough to even begin this pursuit.

I think sometimes coming out of poverty, coming out of very difficult circumstances where there's a lot of chaos, having a grounded relationship,

even if we're not sure, it's like coming from the deepest place, but it just like we feel stability and something feels good about that is really necessary for other parts of our system to open up.

So I want to acknowledge that truth.

And there is no example in the universe of someone attaining awakening by perfectly manufacturing their external world.

In many ways, it can actually become a prison because it gets so comfortable that you mistake it as awakening, you mistake it as freedom, or you have just less and less of a reason to try to pursue something else.

is really to look at the classic, once that happens, then I can start the work.

And just watch how compelling that is and how subtle that is.

And what is it like to just meet this moment with an orientation, as Bikubori would say, this moment, it's like this.

It...

allows us to soften our grip on how this moment should be, meet it in its perfect imperfection, as spiritually trite as that is.

and do the practice of instead of entangling ourselves with how does this need to be better in order for me to find refuge, how can I keep zooming out and remember that the refuge is already here and that wholeness is not something I have to create, it's something that I remember.

I may need to fall apart in order to see that my life can be built on the resonance of space, trust and surrender.

And that often means letting go of the need for stability, surrendering into instability and seeing that there can be still a motivating pulse that creates your life.

When did you feel upset, hurt, angry, abused, misunderstood?

Well, not just misunderstood, but misunderstood in kind of a negative way.

Stress, all of those things.

There was certainly anger.

upset at other people.