André Duqum

this tension sometimes where there are still scripts that we're running subconsciously that in many ways do make us suffer to some degree.

But because we've created distance from believing how true they are, it makes it almost harder to make contact with them because you don't really believe them as real.

So it creates distance from the suffering, but it also...

for me, makes it harder to actually make contact with those things, if that makes sense.

Say more, tell me more.

Like, I mean, in the Buddhist contemplative practices, you're waking up to a space of self, a level of vastness of awareness,

that contains all content of experience.

It's a greater context of awareness, you know?

And so the thoughts, the emotions, the belief, instead of being forefront, forebrain, screams, they become background chatter.

You know, they become less prevalent, still there to some degree.

And so they're more subtle to work with.

Doesn't really dissolve completely, but does that make sense?

Yeah, yeah.

It makes me think deeper about the level of expectations we hold and how there's a mismatch

how we evolved in the ancestral world, you know, compared to modern society, how we're very much so wired to perceive threat in an environment where we're still looking for it, but isn't actually there.

What do you think that mismatch is costing us when you look at how

marketing and branding is kind of preying on this psychology, and yeah, what is the cost of that unexamined area of life?

We can't think about the beliefs that we have in our life without thinking the places in which they originated.

And I've heard you refer to Rene Jard's memetic theory and how so much of what we want is culturally indoctrinated into our mind.

It's what we, what others want is we've learned to want for ourselves.