Andrés Martínez-Fernández

series of many years, I think the reality is if you don't recognize that the regime is essentially a narco-trafficking activity organization, you just haven't looked at what has been publicly available for years and years.

Well, as far as what comes next in Venezuela, if Maduro is ousted from power, there is an opposition leader who has had the legitimacy, the support of the opposition for quite a while and it's talking here specifically about Maria Karina Machado.

She was one of the people and the main person who was prohibited from running in the elections against Baluro, despite the fact that she won overwhelmingly in the only real vote that was seen, which was a

primary vote that went outside of the regime's public control entities, and therefore is much more trustworthy as far as the results that it showed, and it showed overwhelming support for her.

She then threw her support behind another candidate who was essentially a stand-in,

And that candidate won overwhelmingly by all reports.

Of course, the regime offered these false numbers, which were almost comical.

They divided out exactly to one decimal point when you're talking about millions of votes, which is kind of...

pretty much impossible.

But he won overwhelmingly by all reports.

So, there's clearly an opposition that is the logical

transition at least to post-Maduro regime space, then what comes after that is fully restoration of elections and restoration of these whore government institutions which have been corrupted for really decades.

No, yeah.

And there have been a lot of discussions around possible amnesty for particularly some of these officials that have for a very long time supported the regime and including in criminal and illicit activities.

I think there's a recognition even from what some would say are the more hardline opposition actors in Venezuela, that there would have to be some compromise with respect to that kind of amnesty for those folks.

The priority being, again, a restoration of democratic control in Venezuela.

These are all possibilities as far as how that transition would work.

Certainly, I think them maintaining power wouldn't be in the cards, but that doesn't necessarily mean that what should be seen as far as the full justice for all of these support cogs for the regime is realized, but it does mean at least hopefully restoration of democracy.