Andrea Canning

I love it.

Still do.

Yeah, not surprised.

And they're tricky on those hills when you're at a light or something and you gotta, like, when the light turns green, it can be a little nerve-wracking.

It's really true because that was, Keith, that was like kind of the heart of it was with Raymond, the security guard.

He either was the smartest security guard who should have maybe had a life as a detective because he was so on the ball and so accurate with all of his observations.

But then that was his demise, too, because he was too accurate.

I think you are absolutely right in this case.

Yes, definitely.

Because you just don't know what other people are thinking or how they're going to spin it or any number of things can go wrong.

And you really should have someone protecting you if you're being looked at for such a serious crime.

Yeah, and I mean, of course, there's the big accusation of tunnel vision, that they just, the other potential suspects just fell away.

So this, the trials in this case were, it was really unbelievable that, you know, hung jury, hung jury.

And then you hear first degree murder, not guilty.

And I was like, oh my gosh, wow.

And then it's like, you know, head snapper, then it's second degree murder, guilty.

And I have never heard of a jury personally being out for 24 days.

And I thought back, like, how you talked about the jury going out to the park and ride because they were close enough this time, you know, to be able to take a film trip.

I thought back to different cases that I've had over the years, and one of them was a cliff, one of those, you know, out in the national park or whatever.

And I thought to myself, in that case, I realize I'm...