Andrea Dunlop

And I think that that's kind of I can't read them because I also like have that personality where if it is intriguing, then I'll be like, oh, I'm going to just put everything I'm supposed to be doing over here and then just go down this rabbit hole for the next week.

Totally get that.

And also just that, like, you know, I think it's dark, right?

Like, it's dark stuff to look into.

And it takes a toll when you're going into these internet spaces and –

looking at this behavior and thinking about why people would do it.

And, you know, and thinking about like, you know, and then when people get in touch about their experiences they had with a person like that, you know, mom that talked about leaving her dying son's bedside.

I mean, that's just like a huge weight to carry.

And I think it's like, yeah, I just really relate with that feeling of like sort of opening the Pandora's box.

And then you're like, wow, what

And explain to me, explain to me that piece, being friends with the hoaxers, because that's actually something that I, I find relatable, but I think a lot of people would have the opposite reaction where they're like, well, why would you want to be friend, this person that did this?

And, and like this person's, you know, just, yeah, you're talking about that kind of visceral reaction that we have to people and like, understandably, right.

That,

that engage in this kind of behavior that is you know fraudulent and emotionally exploitative and you know yeah it has it has real victims even if the children are fake you know the people who get pulled into it are and that betrayal that they experience and that exploitation they experience is real so yeah tell me about a couple of the people that you know you said you didn't you didn't really end up keeping a relationship with Emily but but in some of these cases you know subsequent cases you did and so can you can you tell us a little bit about that

Get yourself in a creative writing.

Yeah, I mean, that's something that is very relatable to me, and my experience with it has been similar to yours in some ways, except that I think I started off –

Seeing my sister, you know, was my end of one case, right?

And so, like, of course I saw her as a human being primarily.

And that was more of a journey of sort of, like, separating the person that I sort of thought I knew, you know, from her later actions and sort of who she became and really having to, like, face down that.

what she was capable of.