Andrea Gunning

And then I think they stay because of the profound resilience that these storytellers exhibit.

I think it's looking for warning signs.

I think it's looking for red flags.

I think it's hypervigilance.

Now, I personally don't believe in red flags, so it's kind of against my ideology.

But I think as women, you know, we have to move...

about the world being hypervigilant.

I know that I go to true crime because I'm really interested in the characters and how things unfolded.

How did this happen to somebody?

And it's just that curiosity.

And can I avoid it in my own life?

And so I think it's that curiosity and looking for...

You know, information, really.

It's true.

And the majority of our storytellers are women.

And so even though we may differ in our opinions about warning signs, the only way that I can combat not being able to see or predict betrayal or crime

is raising awareness and telling stories and growing a community.

And it's through people sharing their lived experience, like whether it's on 2020 or betrayal, that people can realize that they're not alone.

And that, you know, I think women are incredible at sharing that sense of vulnerability to raise awareness and to inform.

Profound.