Andrej Karpathy

I still feel like

It's still surprising to me, I think, intuitively that it developed.

I would maybe expect just a lot of like animal-like life forms doing animal-like things.

The fact that you can get something that creates culture and knowledge and accumulates it, it is surprising to me.

Yes.

Basically, it's so hard to tell, right, with any of this stuff.

I guess you can base it a little bit on how long something has existed or how long it feels like something has been bottlenecked.

So Nicolain is very good about describing this, like, very apparent bottleneck in bacteria and archaea.

For two billion years, nothing happened.

Like, extreme diversity of chemical, of biochemistry, and yet nothing that grows to become animals.

Two billion years.

I don't know that we've seen exactly that kind of an equivalent with animals and intelligence to your point, right?

But I guess maybe we could also look at it with respect to how many times we think evolution or intelligence has like individually sprung up.

That's a really good thing to investigate.

Maybe one thought on that is, I almost feel like, well, there's the hominid intelligence.

And there's, I would say, like the bird intelligence, right?

Like ravens, et cetera, are extremely clever.

But their brain parts are actually quite distinct, and we don't have that much existence.

So maybe that's a slight event of, there's a slight indication of maybe intelligence springing up a few times.

And so in that case, you'd maybe expect it more frequently or something.