Andrew Arthur

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109 appearances 3 recordings 3 series first heard Dec 2025 last heard 30 Apr

Andrew Arthur’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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Thanks so much for having me, Vince.
I probably could have used some of that blackout coffee while I was listening to this oral argument yesterday.
I actually it was very interesting.
It was more or less what I expected it to be.
There was tough questioning of both John Sauer, who represented the Trump administration, and Cecilia Wang, who represented the ACLU in that.
But the one thing that I was sort of surprised about was.
Sauer and the Department of Justice had submitted a number of briefs that, you know, were actually well thought out, very sophisticated briefs.
They probably on the briefs, they probably had the better side of the argument.
But many of the justices, including Chief Justice John Roberts, didn't really seem to read very deeply into the briefs or weren't buying what Sauer was selling, because at one point, Roberts referred to some of the references that Sauer made as quirky.
But I mean, we're talking about a law that was passed
in 1868, were talking about a Supreme Court decision that was issued in 1898 based upon English feudal law.
So, I mean, you're definitely going to be, it's a pretty heady argument.
And, you know, it points they did get very deeply into it.
So, you know, intellectually, it was very stimulating, except for Ketanji Brown Jackson.
But with respect to the other arguments, I thought that they were very thoughtful.
I think we're going to have the justices, the clerks, they're going to
pour over those briefs.
And I actually think the government may have a slightly better chance than most people think.
Yeah, Vince, in fact, it makes me think that you've actually read through John Sauer's brief because he covers that very well.
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