Andrew Doyle

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253 appearances 2 recordings 2 series first heard Dec 2024 last heard 4 Feb

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast · 506. Europe Imploding | Andrew Doyle & Graham Linehan · 12 Dec 2024 podcast

That's exactly right. I've looked into this quite deeply at a psychological level, and I think you can make a strong biological case at the level of perception that there is no distinction more fundamental than the distinction between male and female. It's more... It's more fundamental than up and down. It's more fundamental than black and white or night and day.

And if you can get people to swallow the equivalence of that fundamental pair of opposites, there is absolutely no lie whatsoever that they'll resist.

That's my point. It's the compulsion too that's the problem, right? The fact that you... This is why I objected to Bill C-16 back in about 2016. You know, I can say whatever I want, fundamentally, but the government doesn't get to compel it. And I don't care if the reason is hypothetically empathy and compassion. It's like, first of all, I doubt that. And second, it doesn't matter.

Well, what can you expect from a TERF?

There's a problem there fundamentally that's akin to the problem of the center and the margin. No, the postmodernists, the French intellectuals, assumed that the reason that any center was established was for no other reason than that of power. And so they construed the center against its opposite, let's say. That's like a dialectic of thesis and antithesis.

But there's a problem with that conceptually, because the center is always a unity. and any unity is surrounded by a margin right now.

And there's an uneasy balance between the center and the margin because all centers have a margin, and the margin is where all the experimentation takes place that's necessary for the center to propagate itself across time because it has to change somewhat as it moves. But the problem with the margin is that every element of the margin has a margin.

And then every element of the fringe of the margin has a margin. And if you go out far enough into the margin, you don't encounter the oppressed. You encounter the truly monstrous. And that's a very big problem.

The UK was always great at that, too.

That also might be a consequence to some degree, an unintended consequence of the technology that unites us, the internet. Because before, if you were an eccentric, by definition, there was one of you. But now online, you can find the other thousands sprinkled throughout the world and you're no longer an eccentric. You're a movement. Yes.

And we have no idea what it means, what that possibility of, what would you say, aggregation of the truly, not even the eccentric, but the monstrous. We have no idea what that aggregation means.

Yeah, well, maybe one of the ways that you can tell when empathy for the marginal has exceeded its boundaries is when the marginalized who are being empathized with start to restrict eccentricity. When the now included marginalized become intolerant, the empathetic endeavor has gone too far.

Because they're now making the rules.

Yes, Russell Brand has departed for places unknown, too, into the United States for exactly the same reason.

I don't think it's histrionic. I think people were thinking it. You get a substantive amount of creative freedom and a certain amount of like supportive social infrastructure in order to think creatively, because you really have to be free to think creatively, because it's risky.

And you're going to, certainly you're going to transgress against boundaries explicitly and implicitly, because while you're casting about for humor, you're going to go too far from time to time, like obviously. Yes. You know, and you know, too, that the best comedy is the closest it can possibly be to being offensive without quite managing it.

know exactly i call them regime comedians that's a great well they're also thrilled about the regime because it's the only see one of the things i've noticed about woke books especially the ones for children is the illustrations are they're absolutely hideous yes they're talentless dull and and like they're monstrous in their in their what in their incompetence They're so bad.

Well, the only possible reason you got to illustrate that book and have it published is because it has the right political message. Because no one in their right mind would look at a drawing that you made for more than two seconds without turning aside. And so you see the same thing.

This is certainly one of the things that I saw in universities, and it was awful, is that ideological purity was the best possible camouflage for appalling mediocrity. It's like, well, I can't do what I'm supposed to do, but I can certainly tow the bloody party line.

And if you need an enforcer, well, here I am, partly because I have nothing better to do or nothing that I would like to do more, which is even worse.

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