Andrew East

it can really make you feel lonely.

And so we started what we call Bev Time, where it's like, we'll put the kids down.

And the first thing we do, it was because we were drinking wine back then in the day, but we used to put the kids down and then like jump on our phones.

And then it's like, there was this feeling of, wow, I really wanted to connect.

My goal here with this marriage, if I zoom out, is like to be fully known and fully loved.

You know what I'm saying?

And we're not really doing that on a day-to-day basis.

It doesn't feel like.

So we started this time where it's like kids go down and we have anywhere from five minutes to 45 minutes every night where we're just like talking, debriefing, like talking.

Tell me about all the things that happened.

Cause that is a beautiful part about marriage where like you're a witness to someone else's life and like all the little highs and lows in the day.

It's beautiful.

Your front row seat, man.

Like I want to hear, I used to be when I was younger, like so obsessed with like getting things done, being productive, being efficient.

And so those kinds of conversations just felt like, forgive me, but like unnecessary.

Cause like,

I don't know, I didn't see the bigger picture, but now I see how beautiful and colorful that makes life.

And I would just love, we get somewhat criticized because people will say, well, doesn't that come across as too structured and you're losing the spontaneity in life and like the whimsical romance when you have all these structures and check-ins and these systems and goals.

And, uh, and in my mind, I would like to be as strategic with my family life, my marriage as I am in business, because I know like everyone talks about, Hey, what's our five-year plan in business and what are our values and what are, what are our 30 day goals or 90 day goals?

Right.