Andrew Gillis

And that might just be something you have to live with.

When you were talking about the jersey sales, I thought of that scene from Invincible where Paulie's driving his car and he stops dead in his tracks when he sees a kid wearing his jersey.

That's going to be Hawkins' welcome to Ohio State moment.

We're going to ask him that in the spring or the summer.

We're going to see.

We're going to be like, hey, how's Columbus treating you?

And he's going to be like, I can't believe they're selling jerseys of a kicker.

I think so.

I think it's possible.

Yeah.

Like Ohio state, Michigan always does numbers every year, but if, if Michigan's not that great, there's going to be a level of excitement with Indiana that I think is very, very new for just the common college football fan.

Yeah, old money versus new money.

Nice works in two different ways.

I think there's like the obviously the old guard of Ohio State, most consistent program in college football history like are consistently good.

There's Indiana program who was the worst literal program as of like,

two months ago and now they're at this level of winning a national championship.

And you have this kind of like old school guard versus the new school guard.

I think that that's just really fascinating because when this big 10 merged together, I think we all kind of looked at it and went, wow, they're adding USC and Oregon.

And those are two teams that could really, you know, help out.

Obviously nobody saw Indiana coming, but like,