Andrew Heaton

I'd say the main problem with housing is we don't have a housing policy.

We have an investment policy.

We want to treat houses as the principal investment vehicle of the entire country.

The problem with that is if you want all houses to increase in value forever, which is what we want, then you can't have cheap houses.

Well, they will, though, because land is finite and population grows.

I agree to disagree on that one.

No, I think individual liberty, free trade and, you know, comparative advantage are pretty rooted in the American experience.

Those are nice.

They're spiritual and emotional arguments.

They're spiritual.

I think the government should be protecting you from crime and should be enforcing contracts.

It should be stopping fraud, negative externalities like pollution.

But I don't think the government should protect you from competition.

What about monopoly?

No, no, no.

We're now switching from policy to sort of ideology.

Yes, me neither.

I don't think that's super germane to the free trade thing.

Biden screwed up where he decided that—hold on, real quick.

We'll talk about immigration in a moment.