Andrew Huberman

My lab has done some clinical studies on breathwork.

We call it respiration physiology for a reason.

It's important to be able to fund studies and also to be able to communicate information

that information to colleagues who, if they just hear breath work or meditation or that it's a separator, right?

The field of science can't go into the mystical right away.

But what's so interesting is nowadays there are discussions about

meditation that are starting to get into the deeper layers, but it took 20 years or more of formal science to do.

I'm not arguing with you.

I think some people will say, why not just cut to the chase?

I completely agree with everything you're saying.

I think there are ways of editing the nervous system that are non-pharmacologic, that are behavioral.

You're describing some of the

the more ancient ones.

I do believe that yogis were and are neuroscientists.

They come in through a different avenue.

My recollection from Nidra is that there's an encouragement to two things that I would love your comments on.

One is there's an instruction in the Nidras that I've done to move away from thinking and doing,

to being and feeling.

You're trying to get out of the state of planning.

Is there some shift that's critical?